#i dunnou man I think if we're gonna argue this we need to look at what the game actually gives us and not what we think | Explore Tumblr posts and blogs

merethicera · 2 years ago

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the dude whose content i tend to recommend as a better alternative to pat's unhinged rambling put out a new video in his 3 part skyrim series and he has bad stormcloak takes too

(i dont feel like being eloquent so im just gonna ramble in the tags)

#i shouldnt be surprised considering pat promotes him at the beginning of his video but i was holding out hope #its at least a little more sound than pat's owning the libs rant #dude makes salient points using ulfric's dialogue and tries to argue that 'skyrim belongs to the nords'#refers not to removing every other race but to returning control of the province back to its ''native'' inhabitants #instead of the empire (full acknowledgement here that nords as native inhabitants is incorrect but it's the easiest way to summarize this #point he's making. significant amounts of the land belong to the forsworn etc)#which from galmar and ulfric's dialogue may well be true given they dont Bar you from joining the stormcloaks and seem to lean more into #the imperial conflict when prompted #but regardless of what ulfric and galmar may say the overall influence of their movement has incited racism on a mass scale and they grey #quarter and argonian dockworkers still exist #stormcloak aligned npcs as a whole will still insult you and tell you you dont belong unless you're a nord #dude argues that the two guys harassing the dark elf woman in the front of windhelm arent representative of the stormcloaks because they #arent soldiers but theyre clearly aligned with ulfric's side #(he also insists that the woman saying it's 'not [her] fight' (irt the civil war) is selfish on her part somehow #and then goes on to give the whole 'but the dark elves are meanies too >:(' argument pat does #theres also the ex stormcloak guy who talks directly about ulfric being a racist but op writes him off because his dialogue mentions #khajiit caravans and the like who he says arent ulfrics citizens #but it reads more to me as bad bethesda writing than that dude being written to have shit arguments #as op and pat are trying to posit #i dunnou man I think if we're gonna argue this we need to look at what the game actually gives us and not what we think #bethesda was TRYING to say if we're gonna pick apart this questline in good faith #you cant just be like 'well i think todd didnt MEAN for them to be as racist as they are so theyre not THAT bad'#and then take all the other content in the game at face value and criticize it that way #cake eating it too etc #anyway sorry for being MIA outside of the queue im working on a restraining order against the wizard at work

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